Family Law,Business Law,Litigation,Migration: 08 April 2026
Author: Susan Ilias , Bao Ngo - Our People
De-Suiting the Law is a video podcast hosted by Aitken Partners Principal Lawyers Susan Ilias and Bao Ngo. The series sets out to demystify the legal profession, with real conversations about what lawyers actually do, and why it matters.
We are excited to launch De‑Suiting the Law, a candid video podcast hosted by Aitken Partners Principal Lawyers Susan Ilias and Bao Ngo. You can expect honesty, warmth, and a little humour. Most of all, you will hear the human side of the profession.
Across the series Susan and Bao will explore the realities of Australian law. Discussing professionalism and ethics, the discipline of preparation, the rhythm of court work, and the everyday focus on client care. They also unpack how television and pop culture can shape expectations that do not match local practice. The goal is to show the real side of the industry, educate and entertain, and make complex ideas easier to understand.
Episode 1 looks at American TV drama versus the courtroom reality in Australia. It covers procedural fairness, surprise witnesses, and why lawyers do not roam around the court or ask to approach the bench. It explains the emphasis on civility, and the many months of preparation that sit behind a single hearing.
“There are always common misconceptions about the law, we want to take time to bust some of those myths. And we hope that people will enjoy some of our comparisons between the American TV shows and Australian reality,” said Bao.
“I've actually had clients tap me on the shoulder when I'm making submissions, or if the other party's making submissions and my client feels like I should be objecting, they want to know why I'm not standing up and yelling at my opponent. And I have to explain that there is a sense of courtesy in the courtroom,” said Susan.
De‑Suiting the Law is made for more than just lawyers and we hope it speaks to the broader profession and the public. We invite you to watch, listen, follow, and share. Subscribe on your preferred podcast platform and tell us which topics you want covered next
You can find the podcast on these links at: Spotify, Apple Podcasts and YouTube.
If you'd like to get in touch with Susan or Bao, reach out at the contact details below:
Susan Ilias, Phone: +61 3 8600 6040 Email: silias@aitken.com.au
Bao Ngo, Phone: +61 3 8600 6012 Email: bngo@aitken.com.au